Hi David,
I attended your first seminar in LA and it was a real
eye opener for me. I've listened to the advanced CD
series 2 times since then and each time I'm learning
something new. I've noticed that the trick is to go
out and gain experience meeting more women and then
come back and listen to the CDs again and you'll be
surprised how much more you're picking up. After
attending your seminar I'm now able to start a conversation
with a woman in a bookshop and get her to follow me
from there to another location to have coffee\tea
etc, and I'm now able to this on a CONSISTENT basis,
something I didn't think was possible before.
My question to you is regarding answering (or not
answering) questions from women. I now understand
that if you directly answer 'qualifying' questions
from a woman then you're accepting her qualifying
frame, which is VERY bad for attraction. But how
about questions that seem like she's genuinely trying
to get to know you better? Also how do handle it when
a woman says, "You never answer my questions..." and
then goes on and on about it? I've had this kind of
situation many times, I know it's a sh**-test but I
haven't found an effective way of dealing with it yet.
For an example of this kind of test please read the
chat below which is an excerpt from an online chat I
had recently. I met her online but we've spoken on
the phone several times, she lives in a different
country from me so we haven't been able to meet yet,
but plan to do so soon. Not so much for this particular
chick but I would like to know how to deal with this
kind of situation with any chick in future.
Tell me what you think, and if I handled her questions
(and accusations) properly and what I could have done
better.
With thanks.
Your loyal student.
G. (London, England)
==================messenger convo=================
[Good initial C&F conversation, then she asked the
question]
.
.
Her: how many girls have you met from online so far?
Me: 5000
Her: it's a minus, that u never answer to my
questions
Her: but it's true, that u never answer to my
questions
Me: really?
Her: hm...... every time I ask you something about
u....you just answer with a slapstick something
Me: You know my name, where I live, my age, where
I had the craziest sex etc etc
Me: you want more?
Me: wow! there are greedy people in this world
Me: still there?
Her: yes.... I was just thinking what to say
Me: aha you're lost for words
Her: I don't want you to get me wrong here......
Me: shoot away!
Her: but I have the impression that you don't want
to talk about your outlook on relationships....
Her: that sounds weird
Her: are you dating somebody right now?
Me: outlook on relationships?
Me: is this a marriage proposal... you've got to be
rich though
Me: and be able to tell a story for 40 days and 40
nights
Her: here it comes again..... no, I'm just interested
in getting to know you.....
Me: I like to get to know u too
Me: of course you've got to be a great story teller
Me: then the marriage will be ON
Her: so, then why is it so bad to ask maybe how long
your longest relationship was... or when u did get
out of the last one....
Me: you think it's bad?
Her: I really love fooling around and chatting
around....but I don't like it if I never get answers
to just normal not indiscreet questions
Me: Indiscreet... hmmm. Ask whatever questions you
want
Me: you'll get to know me as it goes
Her: I already did.... and I don't have a list to
write that down.... I just noticed that... last time
when you called me on the phone... and today, too......
every time I ask something about your past I get a slapstick
answer
Me: don't mind me that's how I talk. I'm playful
but we'll get to know each other as we go along
Me: it's a natural process
Me: you can't force it
Her: hey..... now you got me wrong..... see I didn't
want that
Me: want what?
Her: that you get this message the way you got it.....
I'm not that needy and I don't want to force anything.
Me: cool, I like that...
Me: needy people scare me
Me: I know you're not needy
Me: so when are u thinking of coming?
Her: I told you.... it would not be possible before
march because in Feb. I'm on training... and work...
and will have no (NO!!) day off the whole month
Me: working all month, not even free for the weekends?
Her: no....
Me: what training is it?
Her: especially not the weekends..... from march on I
will have a little bit more time (especially the
weekends)
Her: I worked on getting me free time on weekends
because I want to have a private life again one day....
Me: time to go out and stuff
Her: I'm doing my A-licence for aqua-training the
next 3 weeks, and then the last diploma for Pilates
Her: for example
Me: you're going to put me through some steps when
you get here
Her: put you through some steps?
Me: workouts... were you thinking of something
else... bad girl!
Her: no... I just wanted to know what you want to
learn...what where you thinking about
Me: whatever is nice and easy, anyway we'll see when
come
Me: what are you uo to next tonight
Me: up
Her: not much.... watch a movie maybe and then go to
bed.....
Me: ok, hope you get better wrap warm.
Me: I've got to hit the sack now
Me: tired from a long day at work
Her: do that.... and talk to you soon.... just
have to work 2 hours tomorrow night.... I need that
break, maybe I'll cancel that, too and stay in bed
Her: nite nite then......xx
Me: good night
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Great job!
It's good hearing from you, "G". I remember you
very clearly from the LA seminar... and I remember
the breakthrough you had.
Congratulations on getting to the next level. It's
exciting to hear that you can now go out to a bookstore
and get a woman to join you for tea on the spot on
a consistent basis. Nice!
On to your questions...
First of all, let's talk about the whole concept
of "testing", and why women do it (and, more importantly,
how to deal with it when it happens).
In a nutshell, "testing" is a woman's way of QUICKLY
finding out a lot of information with a very small
investment.
You must remember that beautiful women are being
approached ALL THE TIME in one way or another... just
about every man they meet tries to pick them up or
come on to them.
Women can FEEL this happening, even before it actually
starts.
Now, if a woman is "available", she must figure
out a way to "separate the men from the boys" so to
speak, and figure out if a particular man is going
to be worth her time.
Enter the TEST.
Also, if an attractive woman is out on a date with
a man, or having a phone conversation, etc. (or anything
else that could be perceived as taking things to the
next level) she must find out quickly whether this
particular guy is:
1) Long-term relationship material
2) Short-term "affair" material
3) Friend material
4) Wuss material
5) The Gimp from Pulp Fiction
Keep in mind, a beautiful woman has LOTS of options.
She's being approached probably 100+ times a month
with date offers, etc. and could never hope to spend
even a small fraction of her time with all the men
who are interested in her.
She must use TESTS to quickly cut to the chase
and find out what a particular guy is REALLY all about.
Tests can take many forms.
Here are a few common ones:
1) Canceling plans with little notice, or flaking
out entirely without notice
2) Asking for gifts or favors outright
3) Acting snotty, demanding, dramatic, or manipulative
to see if you'll put up with it
4) Asking or telling you to change your behavior
5) Threatening to leave or take her attention and
give it to someone else if you don't comply with her
wishes
...and the list goes on.
As you already know, women often use more SUBTLE
tests as well.
For instance, complaining that you don't answer
her directly, to see if you will.
Or telling you that what you're doing is annoying
to her.
In your email, you wrote...
"But how about questions that seem like she's genuinely
trying to get to know you better? Also how do handle
it when a woman says, "You never answer my questions..."
and then goes on and on about it? I've had this kind
of situation many times, I know it's a sh**-test but
I haven't found an effective way of dealing with it
yet."
...well, the good news for you is that you know
a guy who has had this happen A LOT more times to
him...and that person is ME!
And the "effective" way to deal with it is to keep
doing exactly what you're doing.
The "problem" here is how you're interpreting the
situation.
My guess is that all of the problems you're having
around this issue come from the fact that you "see"
it as a problem... not because there actually IS a
problem.
Here's a little chunk of the dialogue that you
included with your email...
Her: I really love fooling around and chatting around....
but I don't like it if I never get answers to just
normal not indiscreet questions
Me: Indiscreet... hmmm. Ask whatever questions you
want
Me: you'll get to know me as it goes
Her: I already did.... and I don't have a list to
write that down.... I just noticed that... last time
when you called me on the phone... and today, too......
every time I ask something about your past I get a
slapstick answer
Me: don't mind me that's how I talk. I'm playful but
we'll get to know each other as we go along
Me: it's a natural process
Me: you can't force it
...OK.
The way I read this, you GAVE IN when she started
complaining, and said "...don't mind me that's how
I talk...".
You basically said "Don't mind me, I'm actually
kind of a Wuss, and that's how I talk".
Are you with me here?
You didn't need to EXPLAIN yourself, or make an
excuse for yourself.
What I'm trying to say is that YOU are the problem
here, not the women who complain about you not answering
their questions.
Try this instead:
Her: I already did.... and I don't have a list to
write that down.... I just noticed that... last time
when you called me on the phone... and today, too......
every time I ask something about your past I get a
slapstick answer
Me: I'm glad you like it. Maybe that's why you keep
messaging me and thinking about me so much!
...see the difference here?
If a woman complains because you're being difficult,
LAUGH. Pretend you're a bad little boy on the school
playground, and you just pulled her hair... and she's
upset with you...
What would the little boy do?
He'd laugh... and then snap her bra!
Keep things fun. Don't let her change your direction
or upset your mood.
You absolutely CANNOT turn into a Wuss and start
explaining yourself.
There's ALWAYS a better way to do things.
For example...
Let's say you've decided that the woman you're
talking to is really starting to get annoyed, and
you want to give her a little chunk of info.
Instead of saying "Don't mind me", say "OK, I'm
27 years old, I work for an accounting firm, I pay
my own rent, I wear socks that match, and I love my
mom... is that better? How boring is that?"
In other words, TELL HER what she wants to know,
but say it in a sarcastic way that also says "Fine,
you're boring and since you can't think of anything
fun to talk about, I'll answer you... Brat".
Keep in mind... this whole style of communication
is VERY different from what most guys do... and it's
often surprising to a woman.
When she kicks and screams a bit, it's usually
because she's genuinely surprised. But don't mistake
her whining for REAL resistance.
If she actually gets upset and doesn't want to
talk to you anymore just because you didn't answer
her questions, and instead busted her balls a bit,
then let her go. You learned something VERY valuable,
and you didn't even have to marry her to learn it.
Also, when a woman starts resisting your evasive
and humorous comments...
...LAUGH!
Have fun.
You need to learn to enjoy yourself during this
process. It sounds to me like you're letting this
stuff get to you... which is NOT useful.
By the way... there was something you said to this
girl that I absolutely LOVED...
Her: are you dating somebody right now?
[deleted comment that was out of sync]
Me: is this a marriage proposal... you've got to be
rich though
...this is great!
She asks if you're dating someone, and you ask
her if she's proposing! And then you said "You've
got to be rich, though".
Now THAT'S the right way to answer a question
like that one.
Nice!
To finish, I'm going to do something a little bit
unconventional, and include another email that I just
received from a guy in Australia (He has the same
first initial as you... I wonder if there's a relation...).
Read this:
"You ROCK,
Since I am new to your publication I am unsure if
you get much mail from Australia.
What a difference a week makes. Last Saturday I had
a date with a great young lady. Smart, sexy, beautiful
etc. Well the 1st date didn't go to badly, some passionate
kissing and fun, but when it came time to try to take
her top off, the answer was a firm NO. That is where
the night ended.
Mustn't have been too bad cause I got a follow up
date the next Friday, but I also got the cold(ish)
shoulder. What she didn't know is I got you book
on Wednesday. Wow, what a difference. I realised
she was lining me up for the hoop jumping as a potential
"long term relationship" and sex was at least three
dates away-way too far.
She was playing games, but your book came to the rescue.
When i phoned her to make the date, she said "I will
PENCIL you in". Well in my old ways I would have said
"Yeah sure", but there is a new Greg with Double Your
Dating Power. When she tried the line I came back with
"Well let me know. I am a busy man, if you can't make
it, I need to know-NOW."
When I picked her up, she kissed me on the cheek (after
playing tonsil hockey the week before, was a little
strange). So I put your strategies into play.
I didn't touch her for 4 hours, didn't hit on her,
didn't look at her, was very standoffish. Went out
of my way to point out her strange behaviour. At
one stage I called her "A walking contradiction".
When she went down the "But it will change our friendship
if we take this further (read long term relationship)
path-I said "That's fine, I just want to have a little
FUN."
When I finally did kiss her she melted. Only for me
to stop after about 45 seconds. I then didn't touch
her again for about 1/2 an hour.
She finally took her own top off (I couldn't budge
it 6 days before) and then she said "I will make you
a deal, if I take a piece of clothing off, then you
must take one off as well. She was chasing me!!!!
Well we undresses and had a great time for about three
hours. Afterwards, she invited me out! Love your stuff.
Must go and re-read your wonderful words again. I can't
wait to get the DVD's.
Regards,
G.
ps So if any of you want to come over here, know it
works and works really well. And there are plenty
of great looking women.
G."
...OK, so I included this story because I wanted
to demonstrate a different aspect of testing, and
of "passing" this kind of testing with FLYING colors.
Often, a woman will test you by RESISTING you,
or by telling you that "things are moving too fast"
or even by asking you what your intentions are with
her long term (when you've only known her a short
while, and have no intentions of any kind).
What this gentleman above did was to SEE her bet,
and then RAISE her.
He called her bluff, basically.
WOMEN LOVE THIS!
It INSTANTLY shifts the power from one side to
the other, and totally changes the situation around.
Points I'd like to comment on:
1) The first time you saw her, you kissed. When you
tried to take off her top, the answer was a "firm
NO".
>>>The reason why the answer was a "firm NO" was because
you gave her something to resist. Instead of amplifying
the ATTRACTION in the situation, and building the
ANTICIPATION, you just went for it. Next time, you'll
know better.
2) The second time you saw her, you didn't do anything
that even LIGHTLY indicated that you were interested
in her.
>>>Great job! This is perfect. Most guys can't go
four MINUTES without screwing things up by trying
to kiss a woman, asking her how she's feeling, or
doing some other Wuss Bag thing that blows everything.
You were able to stay cool and calm for FOUR HOURS...
and allow the tension to build. I guarantee you that
she was wondering what the hell was going on.
3) When you finally did kiss her, you STOPPED after
45 seconds... then didn't do anything else for a half
hour.
>>>Again, great move. Perfect. It doesn't surprise
me at ALL that she took her own top off, then told
you that you had to take something off as well. This
is what happens when you understand the process by
which women test... and the process by which women
become sexually aroused.
...thanks for the email.
Now, in this newsletter I've focused on the topic
of TESTING. I've also discussed amplifying attraction,
and eliminating resistance from women.
The reason that these two guys who wrote in are
doing so well right now is because they understand
something that most guys DON'T understand.
They "get it".
And, like most of the people I've met in life who
are trying to be the best they can be, they're always
looking to improve. They're continuing to educate
themselves, even though they have a level of success
that most men would envy.
It took me about three or four YEARS to finally
"get it", and to have total confidence that I could
go out anywhere, anytime, and meet women.
That was partly because I couldn't find any good
models to learn from... and partly because I had to
"unlearn" a lot of bad programming I had obtained
along the way.
The reason I wrote my original eBook "Double Your
Dating" was because I wanted to be able to help other
guys out there to understand how to be successful
with women and dating... without having to go through
all the hassles and wasted time that I had to deal
with.
My Advanced Dating Techniques CD/DVD program is
the natural extension...
It allowed me to go "deep" and spend a lot more
time teaching the "inner game", as well as the "outer
game" and specific techniques for meeting and dating
women. It also allowed me the opportunity to interview
some of the guys I know who are REALLY good with women...
and get them to share many of the great ideas that
I learned from them that helped me become successful.
In other words, my eBook and Advanced Program are
the BEST. They're what I wish I would have had when
I started learning this stuff... and they probably
would have saved me YEARS of my time, and a lot of
frustration.
I invite you to check them out.
You can download my online eBook and be reading
it within a few minutes here:
http://www.DoubleYourDatingAdvice.com/e/eBook/
I'll talk to you again soon!
Your Friend,
David D.
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